Senate Judiciary

Jan. 18, 2023


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Sen Stubblefield: All right. The Chair wants to call this meeting to order. The chair does see a quorum here today. This will be our organizational meeting so we won’t be here very long. We’re going to introduce some honored guests we have with us today. First of all, I want to say welcome. We look forward to seeing– I know we’ll be seeing a lot of you on a regular basis because I recognize a lot of faces that I’ve seen before, and I’ve served on this committee for eight years. So thank you for being here today. The first thing I want to do is introduce my co-chair. Senator Flowers, do you have anything to say?

 

Sen Flowers: Of course, I do. Good morning. Glad to be here. I was upstairs visiting with some international visitors from the US Department of State’s leadership program, and they were from different parts of Africa, and it was my pleasure. They have a lot of interest that this committee deals with. So hopefully you all will get to see them later and say hello to them. But I look forward to the work of this committee this year.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Thank you, Senator Flowers. In fact, I’d talked to the State Department and this group from Africa and the three interpreters earlier about them being here and they had a schedule conflict, so maybe we can see them maybe before the end of the meeting. But before we go any further, I want each member, if you will, to just state your name and the district you represent, anything you want to say about yourself.

 

Sen Hester: I’m Bart Hester. I represent about a third of Benton County, and my first time on this committee. Looking forward to it.

 

Sen McKee: Matt McKee, District 6, Hot Springs, Garland County, a little bit of Saline County.

 

Sen Clark: Alan Clark, District 7, Saline County, Garland County, Hot Spring County, and Grant County.

 

Sen Tucker: Clarke Tucker, District 14, which we’re in right now, so I’d like to welcome everyone to Center District 14, which covers downtown Little Rock through midtown and out the west Little Rock.

 

Sen Gilmore: Ben Gilmore, District 1, which encompasses most of southeast Arkansas down from White Hall all the way down to the Louisiana line over to Mississippi.

 

Sen Rice: Good morning. Terry Rice, District 5, district all or parts of 10 counties that’s within 18 miles with Chenal Parkway to the Oklahoma border, from Fort Smith to Kirby, Arkansas. Huge rural area. Also, I’ve served on Judiciary, this will be the 13th, starting my 15th year. I enjoy Judiciary, and I can say it correctly sometimes. I never thought I would want to be on it, but I saw people that was on it. And I think, I appreciate my colleague, Senator Tucker. We used to be full of lawyers, and now they’re more rare. But I think some good variety of viewpoints is always good when we’re dealing with concerns that affect our citizenry. Thank you.

 

Sen Stubblefield: I’m not sure Senator Rice couldn’t pass the bar exam; he has been here so long. [laughter] But anyway, two of the more important people that we couldn’t operate without. It would probably a three-ring circus without them. They’ve been with me for eight years in City, County, Local. And that’s Barbara Brown to my right and Kendra North.

 

Sen Flowers: I’m not Kendra North.

 

Sen Stubblefield: No, you’re not Kendra North. Kendra North over here. Thank you, Senator.

 

Sen Flowers: You’re welcome.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. We’re going to go around the room– we’re going to go around the room, and we’ll start over here, and just have people introduce themselves that are going to be here on a regular/semi-regular basis and introduce themselves. Pardon me, just a minute. Hold on just a second. I’d promised Chief Justice Kemp because I know he’s on a tight schedule, and I almost forgot this. We are honored this morning to have Chief Justice Kemp here. And also the honorable Attorney General Tim Griffith is here with us this morning just to say a few words. So Judge Kemp if you want to start out. We appreciate you being here.

Chief Justice Dan Kemp

Kemp Chief Justice: Thank you, Chairman Stubblefield. I appreciate the invitation to be here. I apologize for my voice. I think the change in the weather has kind of gotten to me, but hopefully I’m not dangerous to anybody. I want to kind of introduce myself to everyone. I was born and raised in Mountain View, graduated high school there. And after I graduated law school, I went back to Mountain View and started a practice in 1976. And then in 1977, I was appointed by the governor as municipal judge for Mountain View in Stone County, where I served for nine and a half years. Following that, I got elected to circuit judge where I served for 30 years in the 16th Judicial District, which was Independence, Cleburne, Stone, Izard, and Fulton counties. And then in 2016, I was elected as chief justice, and now been serving for six years in that capacity. So I’ve had the opportunity to serve in all three levels of our judicial branch.

 

Kemp Chief Justice: The district court, which at that time was known as municipal court, which is traffic court, misdemeanors, small claims. Then there’s the circuit court of general jurisdiction, where you have several criminal, domestic relations, probate, and juvenile jurisdiction. And then, of course, appellate jurisdiction on the Arkansas Supreme Court. So I’ve had, I guess, that unique perspective of serving in all three levels of our judicial branch, which has been helpful for me as chief justice. During the last 12 years of my service as a circuit judge, I served as a drug court judge. And I currently serve as chairman of the specialty court program advisory committee where we’ve set standards for specialty courts such as juvenile drug courts, adult drug courts, veterans treatment courts. And we’re looking, with your assistance, at the expansion of some specialty courts such as domestic violence courts. I just wanted to appear today to mention to you if there’s any way that we could be helpful for you as far as providing any information about the process and procedure of our courts or the breakdown of our courts at the different levels.

 

Kemp Chief Justice: I believe Marty Sullivan, the director of the Administrative Office of the Courts, has given Barbara a handout for you that lists our district court judges across the state and also lists our circuit court judges. So you can see for your own districts who the judges are in that district. I would encourage you to try to go to their courts to observe their courts or set up a meeting with them or contact Marty and he’ll assist in setting up a meeting if you’d like to with any of those judges to gain greater knowledge about their courts. Something I tried, I guess it was two sessions ago, it was coffee with the chief. So I didn’t get a chance to do that the last session because of COVID, but I’m going to try to start that up again this session. So that probably on Wednesday morning early, have coffee, be available to visit with you. I’ll come by and have a cup of coffee. I don’t have any agenda, but just the opportunity to get to know each other better. And so if you get the opportunity, stop by. So again, thank you for this opportunity to appear and kind of introduce myself. And like I said, if there’s anything that we could do to assist you in becoming more knowledgeable about the court system, feel free to contact me or Marty. We would be glad to hopefully provide that for you. Thank you.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Thank you, Judge Kemp. And if any of you have visited the Justice Building, I would encourage you to go over because it’s a beautiful building. They’re doing a lot of work over there. And I’m sure Marty would be glad to give you a tour of the Justice Building. By the way, I did give Judge Kemp, since China has such a chokehold on our antibiotics and decongestants nowadays and we can’t hardly get them, I gave him a home remedy that I think would work real good. It’s been used since back in the 1800s and nobody has died yet from it, so. All right. Attorney General, the honorable Tim Griffin.

Attorney General Tim Griffin

AG Griffin: Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Vice-chair. I felt like old home week. It’s good to be back down here in the Senate, and I appreciate y’all giving me a few minutes to say a few words. I want to just, first of all, say that I completely understand and embrace the role of the legislature with regard to the AG’s office. I understand constitutionally your role. I was on the Judiciary Committee in the House of Representatives in Congress. And I respect your oversight role. I respect the role that you play in helping us fund our office and do what we have to do. And so I want to say that upfront and let you know that we will be working cooperatively with all of y’all and if there’s ever anything that you have a question about, you don’t understand why we would do something, just call me. Call me, text me, all you have my cell phone already. And also, we’ve got some great staff that can help us drill down on some of this stuff. The other thing I would say is we’re all in this together. When we have to spend a ton of money in court, it’s taxpayer dollars.

Avoid unnecessary litigation / tax dollar spend over bills

AG Griffin: Sometimes you can’t avoid that, defending laws, what have you. But if we can spend less by working on the bill over here, helping y’all help get it right and getting it so that we have a less chance of it being challenged, a better chance of winning when it is challenged, I think that’s just smart use of taxpayer dollars, do the work on the front end. We are ready to help. In fact, this afternoon at 2 o’clock, some of my staff are meeting with a senator and some representatives over here on some bills to help navigate an issue or two. And so we want to do that. We want to be really engaged with you all. I’m going to be extremely engaged with the legislature because I understand how important your role is. And I respect that and just want you to know that anytime you want to talk about anything, I’d love to do that. Obviously, I’ll be working very closely with the governor and her staff as well, and I just think that to the extent we can all be on the same page as much as possible, that’s going to be helpful. I am working on criminal justice reform, public safety issues with a number of you. And I look forward to continuing to do that. I will say this, I know, Chairman, you have been really interested in China, in Tik Tok, in Huawei, and a lot of these technology companies that are based in China. I have been very aware of the role that China plays in technology for a long, long time because in the military we’d get briefings on this. And I just wanted to say, to your credit, this is not some scrolling issue on cable news topic of the day.

 

AG Griffin: This is a serious, serious matter that people in the intelligence community and in the military have known about for a long, long time. The public generally has not known what’s going on, but China is not your friend. And we need to be concerned about a lot of these technologies, particularly people like me who have three young kids. And so I want to applaud you for what you’re doing there. I understand a lot of this is primarily at the federal level, and I deal with a lot on the military side, but there is a role to play because we do not want states to be seen as the soft underbelly that is not protected the way the federal government is and in so many ways. So I applaud what you’re doing on that. I think that there’s a lot more to be said about that, and there will be a lot more to be done on these China technology issues down the road. But I appreciate you at a minimum, Chairman, raising awareness on this issue because it is not just the topic of the day for people who watch cable news. This is a really big deal, and it impacts most Americans, anybody that has one of these attached to them like I do, and that’s most of us. And so I appreciate that. Also, I’d like to talk a little bit– do I have a couple more minutes, Chairman?

 

Sen Stubblefield: Absolutely.

 

AG Griffin: Okay. I’d like to talk a little bit about the culture of our office at the AG’s office. I understand and, therefore, I’m demanding that everybody in my office understand, just like when Senator Gilmore worked for me many years ago, before he was the highly esteemed Senator Gilmore, now I work for him. I’ve always worked for the people of Arkansas. But let me just say that it is imperative that everybody in my office understand that we must respect spending of taxpayer dollars. And it doesn’t matter whether it comes from the taxes people pay or the litigation that we win using tax money. We’re going to respect that money. So I’m going through the budget now to figure out where we can save. I know there’s been great concern about past spending on public service announcements. That’s not going to happen on my watch in the way that it did. And so we’re making significant changes there. And I’ll be announcing more on that later.

Pursing Legislative Audit prosecutions

AG Griffin: The other thing that I would tell you, I know that a lot of you have had great concerns about Leg Audit recommendations, reports, referrals going to prosecutors, and sometimes they don’t get any action. And I’ve heard from several of you about that. And I’ve already met with Will Jones, the new prosecutor here in Pulaski County and Perry County. He is a good friend. We are going to work seamlessly on a lot of this stuff. I think sometimes the problem is there are a lot of different things going on, and our prosecuting attorneys do an amazing job. But they’re overwhelmed with the number of crimes that they’re dealing with, and they have to prioritize. In other instances, there may be a conflict in a small community where everybody knows each other. So there are a lot of different reasons why some of these Leg Audit recommendations referrals have not been pursued. So what Will and I have talked about is the fact that the law currently allows for the AG’s office to pursue a Leg Audit case when the prosecutor decides not to. The biggest challenge has been communication. Because when a prosecuting attorney gets that packet from Leg Audit, we don’t get that.

AG Griffin: We may find out about it, but we don’t get that. So we don’t know to track that one, right? We may have seen some hearings or something, but generally, we don’t know to track that. So there’s going to be lots of communication. I’ve already been over to the prosecuting attorney’s office, to Will Jones’ office and met about this, staff to staff and Will to me, and we are going to communicate seamlessly on these issues. So if he’s not going to pursue it, then we’ll talk about whether we should pursue it. And sometimes we have capabilities and resources that may be a prosecuting attorney somewhere else may not have. One thing that we are wanting to do, and I think I’ve already spoken with some senators about this, a simple little fix to the law where when that Leg Audit report goes to the relevant prosecutor, we get cc’d on it. That way we know that that has been issued, and we can pick up the phone and call that prosecuting attorney.

 

AG Griffin: I think that little change will make a huge difference because there has been a lot of frustration from senators, at least I have heard it, and we’re going to fix that by communication and maybe getting that little tweak into the law. So also I wanted to mention, I have some staff here. I’ve got some great folks that are working with y’all here at the legislature. I’ll be over here a lot if y’all let me. I’ll be down having breakfast and hanging out, and I’ll come over anytime you need me to talk about issues, talk about whatever. Alex Benton is my Assistant AG for intergovernmental affairs. She’s handling all the state, federal affairs, as well as municipal County, but her focus right now is the session. Alex, will you stand up? She’s Assistant AG. She knows what she’s talking about. She’s awesome. She’s a rock star, really, really, really happy to have her on staff, and you’ll see her around here a lot. So please feel free to grab her, call her.

 

AG Griffin: Joseph Lutke is not here because he’s sick today, but I wanted to mention him. He’s Assistant Attorney General for the criminal division. He is helping with this committee during session, and he will be around. And then Adam Jackson, who is here, Adam. Assistant AG from the criminal division, and he will be helping out here as well. Of course, you can always call me. I’m probably going to ask Alex to help. But you can always call me text me and we’ll be happy to help you in any way. So I appreciate your time. Look forward to working with you, subject to your questions.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Anyone have any questions for the AG? Thank you, Attorney General, we–

 

AG Griffin: Thank y’all.

 

Sen Stubblefield: –appreciate you being here today. And I also appreciate your involvement in TikTok, especially the national security issues involved around TikTok. But also, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo gave a stern warning to parents about what this app was doing to small children, especially girls, and the things that they were putting out to destroy our youth, so.

 

AG Griffin: I don’t let my kids on it. The army said, “No, and I said, “No.”

 

Sen Stubblefield: Hallelujah.

 

AG Griffin: Thank you, sir.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. We’re going to start. We’ve gained some new people. So we’ll just start right here. If you want to go around the room and introduce yourself. Just introduce yourself for the–

 

Ingram AMS: I’m Jim Ingram. I’m a physician here in Little Rock, Arkansas. I’m representing the Arkansas Medical Society.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Thank you for being here. We may need you before this– thank you, so–

 

Hopkins AMS: Laura Hopkins with the Arkansas Medical Society.

[inaudible] [Igar?] with the Governor’s office.

 

Ritchie Govs office: Sure. I’m Vu Ritchie. I’m Chief Legal Counsel for Governor Hutchinson– or Governor Sanders. [laughter] [crosstalk]. I want to introduce our legal team. We’ll be out here a lot, both in committees and dealing with y’all’s bills, etc. Cole Jester is Deputy of Legal. We’ve got Cortney Kennedy. She was a prosecutor in Faulkner County.

 

Ritchie Govs office: She’s now in the criminal division. Helen Bateman. She’s handling the civil division and [inaudible]. She handles commutations, pardons, and extraditions. And then, some legislative help: Vic Ortiz does public safety and is a liaison [inaudible] our office. And then Katherine — [inaudible]. Thank you. She’s legislative help, and she’s been with us– [inaudible] Governor Hutchinson on the legislative [inaudible]. One thing that Governor Sanders keeps saying is that we’re going to be legislative partners with y’all. We want to make sure that we’re here to help, whether it’s questions on her legislative agenda or whether it’s making sure that we’re going to help y’all with any questions that you may have on our side, whether it’s constituent services or things that you might have that has to do with the legal side, please let us know. Our legal suite is 122, down here on the first floor. If you got any questions, you– Kelly Eichler is the Deputy Chief of Staff. She knows budget, legislative affairs, policy. So we can help get your questions answered.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Thank you.

…cell phone, and I’ll be fine. [laughter] So if you need me for anything: 501-247-xxxx. Call anytime.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Got it. All right?

 

Cox FC: Jerry Cox with the Family Council.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Want to go ahead and start on the first row and move our way across?

 

Jackson AG’s office: Todd Jackson with the AG’s office.

 

Benton AG’s office: Alex Benton with the AG’s office. And I will also give out my cell number. I’m surprised that AG has not already, But my cell is xxx pride ourselves on being responsive. Within the same business day. If I can’t get an answer to you, I will point you in the direction of somebody that will. You can always be mean if you do not get an answer within 24 hours.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Hey, thank you. I think we already have your number. We’re going to make sure each member gets it. So thank you.

 

Sullivan AOC: I’m Marty Sullivan. I’m the Chief of the Administrative Office of the Courts. [inaudible] be here and help in any way possible. AOC is a helpful service [inaudible] state. We fly under the radar, and I don’t think we should if we’re doing our jobs correctly. We provide interpreters for all of your local courts. That’s one of the big things we do. And another big thing is the case management systems and court technology. We’re doing all the support for your local judges in your area. We have new staff members here. [inaudible] be here at every [inaudible] meeting. But we all have a cell phone number. Call me any time, 24/7. Happy to be of assistance, and I appreciate y’all’s service.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Thank you, Marty.

 

Clark AOC: Good morning. I’m Kristen Clark. I’m also with the Administrative Office of the Courts. I’m the director of the Legal Services Division. And like Marty said, we are here as a resource. Many of you have worked with Ben. And we’re always happy to help.

 

Profiri DOC: Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members. My name is Joe Profiri. I’m the Secretary of Corrections. I would like to introduce my staff: Lindsay Wallace, Chief of Staff; Jerry Bradshaw, the Community Corrections director–

 

Sen Stubblefield: I want to meet him.

 

Profiri DOC: –Dexter Payne, Corrections Director; and Tawnie Rowell, our Sentencing Commission [director?]. We are in service to you and the citizens you represent and will be responsive to you any time, day or night. We are [inaudible] our operation [inaudible] continue [inaudible] constituents in a timely [inaudible].

 

Sen Stubblefield: Well, welcome. We are glad you’re here today. I’ve been looking forward to meeting you.

 

Profiri DOC: Thank you, sir. It’s a pleasure. It’s an honor–

 

Sen Stubblefield: You’ve got your hands full. [laughter]

 

Profiri DOC: You are right about that.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Well, thank you for being here, you and your staff.

 

Bearden IMG: Richard Bearden, Impact Management Group. We’re here in support of the judiciary.

 

Gonzales: Christian Gonzalez. [inaudible].

 

Robin ABA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Jay Robin with the Arkansas Bar Association.

 

Jester: Like Vu mentioned, I’m Cole Jester, I’ll be Deputy Chief Legal Counsel. If any of y’all need a lawyer’s eyes on something or if you need a hand, you can contact me on my cell. It’s 501-303-xxxx, and you can reach out anytime. Appreciate it. Glad to be here.

 

Clifford ATLA: Good morning. Katie Clifford with the Arkansas Trial Lawyers Association.

 

Clemmer CCF: Ann Clemmer. Capitol Consulting Firm.

[inaudible].

 

Sen Stubblefield: Make sure you get all these Governor’s Office people written down. [laughter]

 

Kennedy: Cortney Kennedy. And like Vu said, I was a prosecutor for eight years, so I know better than to give you all my cell phone number. [laughter] When we get government phones, I’ll be glad to give you that. [laughter]

[inaudible]

 

Stallings ACIC: Rick Stallings. Arkansas Crime Information Center.

[inaudible]

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Thank you for being here. Is that every– no, we’ve got a whole side over here. Yeah, let’s move up.

 

Combs CAREP: Hi, I’m Robert Combs, and I’m a volunteer advocate for the Central Arkansas Re-Entry Program.

[inaudible]

 

Barham AOC: Hello. Ben Barham, staff attorney at the Administrative Office of the Courts, primarily concerning district court issues. So any questions that you might have [inaudible]. Thank you.

 

Alpeen AOC: Good morning, I’m Marg Alpeen, and I’m a staff attorney with the AOC as well and handle, usually, domestic relations and [inaudible].

 

Steen AOC: HI, I’m Brooke Steen. I’m the Director of the Juvenile Division of the Administrative Office of the Courts, [inaudible].

 

Mann AOC: Good morning, I’m Krystal Mann, staff attorney at the AOC as well, and I primarily work with our circuit judges. [inaudible]

 

Parrish PDC: Thank you, sir. Gregg Parrish, Public Defenders Commission. Think many of you already have my cell phone.

 

Harper DHS: Good morning. Christin Harper. I’m assistant director of the DHS division of Children and Family Services. I primarily deal with policy, training, and all of our federal reporting monitoring. Happy to help you there.

 

Martin DHS: And I’m Mischa Martin. I’m DHS Deputy Director at [inaudible] families, also serving as Director of Children and Family Services right now too.

 

Mann APAA: I’m Bobby Mann. I’m the Prosecution Coordinator and also the [inaudible] of the Arkansas Prosecuting Attorneys Association.

 

Kumpuris: And I’m Lori Kumpuris. I’m the Deputy Prosecutor Coordinator. Be here every day. So thank you for [inaudible] criminal issues [inaudible].

 

Shue PA: My name’s Daniel Shue. I’m the elected prosecuting attorney for the 12th Judicial District of Sebastian County. I’m also the legislative chair of the Arkansas Prosecuting Attorneys Association. And my father always told me, he said, “The world’s divided into [inaudible]

 

Committee Rules

Sen Stubblefield: Okay. Is that it? All right, I think we have about six senators that want to file tort reform bills, if the trial lawyers would meet over here on this side. [laughter] So we can get all of y’all together. Now, if the members would look over the rules just for a second. I’ll give you a second before we vote on those. We do have a rule in there that no verbal amendments will be allowed in this committee. Senator Clark.

 

Sen Clark: I would like a motion to–

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yeah, turn your mic–

 

Sen Clark: –to amend that– that we are allowed to make technical amendments of punctuation or one, two, three words within the committee for the sake of time.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right, we have a motion to make technical corrections. And a second. Any discussion on that motion? Senator Clarke Tucker?

 

Sen Tucker: Thank you. Just a question. I just want to– because when you say, “One or two, three words,” sometimes that can make a huge difference in the meaning of a bill. So if we’re talking about punctuation, I got no issue there. And if it’s just– if we’re limiting it only to technical corrections and you’re not changing the meaning of a bill, then I’m good. I just want to clarify kind of the extent to which the motion’s made.

 

Sen Clark: That’s just what I said. It can make a difference. But it’s always up to the committee. And it’s what we’ve done in the Judiciary Committee for the last two sessions without any problems.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Any other questions on the motion?

 

Sen Flowers: I do.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Senator Flowers.

 

Sen Flowers: I’m wondering how difficult that would be for drafters. And I think we need to understand that. Because if it’s amended in the committee, then I think the bill will have to go to the floor to be approved as an amended bill. I’m not sure how that works. And is it possible for us to come back to that particular motion that Senator Clark has made and adopt the rules without it today so that we can find out what the difficulty, if any, it would pose to the staff?

 

Sen Stubblefield: Let me interject.

 

Sen Flowers: I think that would be prudent.

 

Sen Clark: Mr. Chair, may I speak?

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yeah, let me interject something real quick. And then I’ll let you speak, Senator Clark. Mr. Cook, our parliamentarian, recommended against any verbal amendments of any kind, whether it would be punctuation marks or anything. That was his recommendation. I’m just stating to you what he said, so. It’s up to committee to decide.

 

Sen Clark: In answer to Senator Flowers’ question, any amendment is handled the same on the floor. There still has to be an amendment. And it still has to be adopted.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Right. Senator Flowers?

 

Sen Flowers: I think we’ve taken much effort to be transparent to the public. So if we change words that have the ability to significantly change a bill with no notice to the public, I just don’t think that’s where we want to go. And I think that’s contrary to transparency. So I would not want to adopt such an amendment in terms of the words change.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Any other discussion on the motion? Senator Clark?

 

Sen Clark: The motion, again, was technical corrections, where we catch words and punctuation that are technical in nature. It saves people a week just to fix it and be able to move on. We’re not talking about anything that would not be transparent. We’re not talking about anything substantial. And the committee always rules.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Senator Rice.

 

Sen Rice: Can I just follow up that? Because we have done that before. That was my point I wanted to make. And he said it at the end, that the committee agrees or not. And I think we’ve given deference to committee members if they had a problem with it. If it was a word or two that seemed more substantive, that a committee member could ask that it not be, so. And then we voted on it. So it’s what the committee does at that time if there’s an objection.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Any other discussion on the motion? I have a motion do pass. I have a motion do pass? And a second? All those in favor say aye. All opposed?

 

Sen Flowers: No.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Motion carries. All right. I need a motion to adopt these rules–

 

BLR Staff: As amended.

 

Sen Stubblefield: –as amended.

 

Sen Clark: Motion.

 

Sen Stubblefield: I have a motion to adopt these rules as amended. Any discussion on that motion? All in favor of adopting these rules as amended. All opposed?

 

Sen Flowers: No.

 

Sen Stubblefield: All right. Motion caries.  Okay. We will start hearing bills Monday morning, 10 o’clock. That’ll be our first meeting where we will actually hear bills. That’ll be this coming Monday. Meet at 10 o’clock, right here in this room Mondays and Wednesdays. This committee will not meet on Fridays. It’ll meet on Mondays and Wednesdays.

 

Sen Flowers: I have a question.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Senator Flowers. You’re recognized .

 

Sen Flowers: Do we have any bills that have been–? I don’t see any on the–

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yes, we have four, I believe.

 

Sen Flowers: When are we going to get a copy of this-?

 

Sen Stubblefield: I don’t have it.

 

Sen Flowers: Are you going to pass this out today? I mean, which ones are on there?

 

Sen Stubblefield: We can pass it out today, can’t we?

 

BLR Staff: I can send it to her.

 

Sen Stubblefield: She can send it to you in an email.

 

Sen Flowers: But it’ll be posted online for the public?

 

BLR Staff: Whatever bills we decide to put on the agenda for Monday will be on the agenda and will be posted for the public.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yeah, what are–

 

BLR Staff: [crosstalk] you’re going to decide which one of these people want to hear.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Whatever bills are decided to be on the agenda for Monday, we will put them on the agenda. But I know there’s three or four, at least, that’s going to be on that agenda. Because I’ve talked to the author, sponsors of the bills.

 

Sen Stubblefield: I’ll tell you what, we’ll send you an email out, telling you which bills will be on the agenda for Monday.

 

Sen Flowers: But when will the public know? I mean–

 

BLR Staff: The agenda’s posted two days prior to the meeting. If the meeting is on Monday, the agenda is going to be posted today.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yeah, it’ll be two days before the meeting. They will get them two days before the meeting.

 

Sen Flowers: So at least by Saturday.

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yeah, or they’ll get them before then.

 

BLR Staff: Today. Today.

 

Sen Flowers: Today?

 

Sen Stubblefield: Yeah. Any questions about this? Any other questions? All right, anyone else have anything else to say? Judge Kemp’s already mixing up that tonic for his throat, so. With nothing else to add, we are adjourned till Monday morning. 10 o’clock.